2012 Applicants

Answers to various questions regarding the SMART Scholarship application process. Includes many tips and statistics.
SUCKSTOSUCK

Re: 2012 Applicants

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Guest wrote:
SA SMART wrote:I was told that the buget for 2012 SMART Scholars was cut by 85%, meaning they can only fund about 45 scholars this year as opposed to 300 in the past. I have it on good authority (from a 2-star equivalent) that this is the case. And I believe it is 2012 funds, not 2013.
Your 2-star is incorrect. If you get the SMART scholarship, you will soon realize that uniformed military is FAR removed from the process of SMART. Basically, your 2-star authority should be taken with the same amount of salt you take this forum.

The funding has not been cut as drastic as that. There will be many more than 45 scholarships awarded.

I heard the same thing from my Sponsoring facility. I was told the air force budget for smart was cut from 10 million to 2.5 million. They were expecting to get 70 students but now only 18.

bulldog

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guest118 wrote:Has anyone else run into timing problems (deadlines) with outside scholarship acceptance or university scholarship timeline? How did you handle it? Also, at what point do you accept what you have and move on?...bird in the hand!
If you have a guaranteed outside offer, take it. You can always apply for SMART next year and you can always try for government internships and/or post-graduation employment. If your university had a deadline of wanting to know about scholarships yesterday (for example), I promise you that they won't turn down that money if it ends up coming later on. For fall semester, most universities have a deadline of sometime partway into the semester for tuition funds to be paid.

As far as the funding issue goes, there are many hands at play here. First, just because an amount of money has been budgeted for an agency/directorate, does not mean that's how much they actually get. Then, once they have that money, it's up to that agency to decide how to spend it. If an unexpected expense comes up, well, that money has to come from somewhere and spending elsewhere gets cut. And you have to remember, the potential budget issue we and SMART are facing is not just about the NDEP funding. Although NDEP/SMART may be receiving a similar amount of money, the individual facilities may not be. This may be a major factor when deciding how many scholarships to award because between budget cuts and hiring freezes, there are likely to be fewer facilities able to take on a SMART scholar and guarantee employment post-graduation. Clearly, the previous cohorts have already experienced problems with this and we have already seen that several SFs have been removed from the list published by SMART.

2012_UMD

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Post by 2012_UMD »

guest118 wrote:Has anyone else run into timing problems (deadlines) with outside scholarship acceptance or university scholarship timeline? How did you handle it? Also, at what point do you accept what you have and move on?...bird in the hand!
I would accept what you've been offered now. Even after deadlines, scholarships can be given back before funds change hands. So, if you end up getting the SMART fellowship, you can always give the other scholarship back (to either be re-dispensed or placed back in the offerer's coffers).

In_Stitches

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The website has been updated - events added to the calendar, but nothing worthy of note (at least for applicants).

smart_hopeful

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Post by smart_hopeful »

SUCKSTOSUCK wrote:I heard the same thing from my Sponsoring facility. I was told the air force budget for smart was cut from 10 million to 2.5 million. They were expecting to get 70 students but now only 18.
It could be that the reductions are different branch-to-branch. It could also be different between the SFs run by the individual uniformed services (which is most of them) and those run by DoD in general (these ones, I think).

Today, by the way, is Day 60 of our wait. Too bad its crop of speculation is particularly gloomy.

ingeniousgenius

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guest118 wrote:Has anyone else run into timing problems (deadlines) with outside scholarship acceptance or university scholarship timeline? How did you handle it? Also, at what point do you accept what you have and move on?...bird in the hand!
I passed up dozens of research opportunities in early April. They were not paid positions, but I would have been able to get training over the summer and then work in the fall. I also missed my chances to get a summer job. I finally decided to sign up for summer classes and will be taking out a loan to pay for them. It is not what I had planned on for my summer, but I cannot put my life on hold on the off-chance that I will be selected. If I am, I will re-evaluate and perhaps drop my classes so that I can go to the orientation, but that seems unlikely at this point. I understand that SMART may be going through a difficult time, but I think they probably knew that it would be longer than a few weeks back in April and it is un-obliging (to say the least) of them not to have given us a timeline. Think how different April and May would have been if we knew that we would not get notifications (or any communication) until June! All that nail-biting for nothing...
Those who get the scholarship can then change their plans when they find out, but we must get on with our lives now.

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Re: 2012 Applicants

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I wonder if they are considering the cost of certain universities people are attending when choosing who gets the awards. Like, if the university you're attending is cheaper are you more likely to get a scholarship.

smart_applicant_189
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Re: 2012 Applicants

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Just heard from my SF that SMART is sending out announcements tomorrow!!

Real_talk

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smart_applicant_189 wrote:Just heard from my SF that SMART is sending out announcements tomorrow!!
I'll believe it when I see it.

smart_hopeful

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smart_applicant_189 wrote:Just heard from my SF that SMART is sending out announcements tomorrow!!
You're now person number 2 on the list of people who owe me a 20-year-old scotch if it doesn't happen tomorrow.

guest118

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thx for the advice on accepting funds, will do today. In regards to the announcement tomorrow, please if anyone else can confirm let the masses know!! Good luck to us All...

bulldog

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Post by bulldog »

Lurkish wrote:I wonder if they are considering the cost of certain universities people are attending when choosing who gets the awards. Like, if the university you're attending is cheaper are you more likely to get a scholarship.
I was just coming here to pose this same question, but Lurkish beat me to it. My university has only had 1 SMART fellow, potentially because it's a private university and therefore wicked expensive (for undergrad tuition, anyway. I have no idea how my grad school tuition compares to other schools; All I can say is that my summer tuition for this summer semester is $1600, according to my current bill). It's certainly an interesting thought.

Lurkish
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Re: 2012 Applicants

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Bulldog, The reason I wonder is because SMART called me about two weeks ago asking me what university I decided to go to (I listed undecided on my application) and it made me think, why would it mater? The uni I told them is the cheapest one I applied to so I wonder if they consider the price.

newguest

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smart_applicant_189 wrote:Just heard from my SF that SMART is sending out announcements tomorrow!!
Sending out as in mailing, so it will be a couple more days . . . or sending out as in emails? Thanks!

Three Point One Four

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Post by Three Point One Four »

newguest wrote:
smart_applicant_189 wrote:Just heard from my SF that SMART is sending out announcements tomorrow!!
Sending out as in mailing, so it will be a couple more days . . . or sending out as in emails? Thanks!
I was an award winner last year and the announcement was an email, followed by more emails if you accept. However, I know it could be differnt this year but I doubt it; email is cheap.

Guest

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Guest with a "buddy" here...

Watch for emails tomorrow. Enjoy your evening!

I will hedge and say by Tuesday (because DoD will not turn the key until all systems are go) but my contact (spoke with her today) is adamant that tomorrow is the day.

Guest 2012
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Re: 2012 Applicants

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newguest wrote:
smart_applicant_189 wrote:Just heard from my SF that SMART is sending out announcements tomorrow!!
Sending out as in mailing, so it will be a couple more days . . . or sending out as in emails? Thanks!
Decisions will be sent by ASEE by email, as is stated on their website. Let's hope the posters are correct and we hear tomorrow.

Trying2Relax

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Post by Trying2Relax »

Well ladies and gents, another one bItes the dust. And just on the eve of our notifications (as if we haven't heard that before, but hey this could be the time). From the sounds of it I stood a pretty slim chance of being selected anyway, but these past few months have been filled with frequent checking of this board, so it almost seems appropriate to bid farewell. Thanks all, and best of luck to the rest of you!

father_time

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Post by father_time »

Ok so I thought I'd become totally immune to people's "predictions" of when notifications will be sent out, but the last few posts (excluding any from bluffy mcblufferson and his "buddy") have decidedly put me in an "April 9th" state of mind again....time for a looooooong day....

Guest42day

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Trying2Relax wrote:Well ladies and gents, another one bItes the dust. And just on the eve of our notifications (as if we haven't heard that before, but hey this could be the time). From the sounds of it I stood a pretty slim chance of being selected anyway, but these past few months have been filled with frequent checking of this board, so it almost seems appropriate to bid farewell. Thanks all, and best of luck to the rest of you!
How did you find out last night? Things will all work out! Good luck in the future!

2012_UMD

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Post by 2012_UMD »

I GOOOOT ITTTT! Just got the email!!!!

finally

Re: 2012 Applicants

Post by finally »

Well, I just got my acceptance e-mail! We have all been waiting so long. i just wanted to keep you all informed since we have all been in this together. Thank goodness for this site or I would have lost it during the wait! GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!!

cw_guest

Re: 2012 Applicants

Post by cw_guest »

Hey guys,
They sent me an award notification today so I'm assuming most people will get some sort of email today. If not at least now you can contact ASEE and get a straight answer about award notifications. Good luck!

Brizant

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Post by Brizant »

I got it too! Although I'm having a hard time logging into the system now....

Zarakava

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Post by Zarakava »

Any rejection emails get recieved yet? That's the one I'm probably going to get.

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