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*** OFFICIAL POST YOUR PAY THREAD ***

PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:27 pm
by Guest324
So much back and forth on this site about pay and what to expect. Post your experiences here and we can actually create a thread that lets people know where they stand paywise compared to other phase II participants and what the Phase I people can expect.

NO PROJECTIONS from Phase I people. Only actual pay.

If you have been working for a couple years, feel free to post where you started and where you are now.

Follow this structure:

Pay
Degree Level
Branch
Facility
Pay System / Level
Effects of Furloughs

Re: *** OFFICIAL POST YOUR PAY THREAD ***

PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:33 pm
by Guest324
$62,400 / year
PHD Industrial Engineering
Army
GS - 11 Step 1
I am furloughed 1 day a week pretty much July through September in 2013

I will be a GS-12 in one year. the first year is considered a probationary period. GS12 step 1 pays $74,500. So my starting pay is really low for a PhD in IE, but at least it ramps up fairly quickly. I realize I said "no projections of pay" but this is a rock hard guarantee in writing on my SF50 (the document you are given when hired, for the Phase I people).

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:58 pm
by Guest
Pay
Degree Level
Branch
Facility
Pay System / Level
Effects of Furloughs[/quote]

$57,408
PhD - Electrical Engineering
US Army
Rather not say
GS - 11/step 1 - next year I will be 11/step 2
Furloughed 1 day/week

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:49 pm
by Guest18
Pay
Degree Level
Branch
Facility
Pay System / Level
Effects of Furloughs[/quote]

68525. Was 65250 when I started last year. Will be 76250(NH-III October 1st)
BS EE
AF
Currently NH-2 will be 3 October 1st. Acq Demo
One day a week off.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:06 pm
by Guest19
Pay: Started in 2010 at approx. $59,000. Now: $76,600.
Degree: PhD Comp Eng
Branch/Facility: Prefer not to say
Furlough: 1 day per week until Sept. 2013

Note: I received a one-time $10k signing bonus when I started. So my average salary over the three years I've been here has been about $69k.

Re: *** OFFICIAL POST YOUR PAY THREAD ***

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:57 am
by Nunya
One thing I think people should note is whether these reflect base pay or with locality (which varies quite a bit).

Pay: $48,917 (base), $60,765 (w/ locality)
Degree Level: BS, Computer Science
Branch: Navy
Facility: Omitting
Pay System / Level: Navy Demo, ND-02
Effects of Furloughs: 2 days per pay period (2 weeks) off until Sep. no annual pay increases forecasted.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:59 am
by PostingPay
Pay: $58,000 (GS-11). Will end up at $68,000 in a year
Branch: Air Force
Facility: Omitted
Pay System / Level: GS 7-9-11-12 track. I am currently transitioning from GS-9 to GS-11 this month.
Effects of Furloughs: Loss of 2 days per pay period.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:15 am
by Guest19
All numbers that I posted previously were with locality adjustment. My current pay without locality adjustment is $66,023.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:00 pm
by guest22
$65,000 w/locality
MS
Army
ERDC, Vicksburg
Lab Demo_DB02 (GS-11)

16 hour loss per pay period

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:48 pm
by Guest
GS 11 step 2
PhD EE
Army
Furlough: 11 days total

Retention participant. Was promoted to GS 11 two years ago when I got my MS (It took the better part of a year). Received no promotion for the PhD. My supervisor wants to give me GS-12 but HR is blocking it for a year. When I contacted SMART about it they said they are not involved with employment or salaries at SFs.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:53 am
by guestivusMaximus
Pay : $65,000
Degree Level: BA/BS
Branch: USACE
Facility: ERDC
Pay System / Level : Lab Demo /DB2
Effects of Furloughs: I work a 4x10 shift, and the furloughs have caused me to lose 8 hours a week, plus 2 extra hours a week of LWOP.

I have been told that my GS equivalent is "GS-11", but I have never seen anything set in stone. I have 8 years of military experience with 3 years in Iraq and Afghanistan. The only benefit that I get from my military service is 6 hours of leave a pay period, but outside of that it counts for nothing. Since recruited in SMART I have learned that SMART students do not qualify for Long Term Training, Student Loan Repayment Programs, Tuition Assistance or any regular incentive programs; until AFTER they fulfill their SMART commitment. My perspective is that SMART is seen by my facility primarily as a "free labor" program, where they get free internship work, and low cost labor after graduation because of the service commitment. I would NOT recommend SMART to anyone.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:27 am
by Guest2121
I am just entering the SMART program this year as a retention candidate in pursuit of my PhD. My SF shared with me that they bring PhDs onboard as low ND-04s, basically $65K per year. I have worked for the SF for approximately 7 years, and I already earn $83K per year. Basically, many engineers and scientists with Bachelor degrees make as much or even more than those with PhDs in government. I am pursuing the PhD for life after government service.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:34 am
by Guest
Guest2121 your 7 years of experience at SF will factor in to your starting salary.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:39 pm
by Guest
$83k+ moving exp (PCS)
PhD
Army
GS 12-7
No furlough (civil service)
Hired 2013

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:00 pm
by guest18
Furloughs are now over. Just FYI

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:15 pm
by guest
Any salary updates ?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:55 pm
by Guest
Guest wrote:$83k+ moving exp (PCS)
PhD
Army
GS 12-7
No furlough (civil service)
Hired 2013


Update: 3 years in
$97K, GS 13-6

Re: *** OFFICIAL POST YOUR PAY THREAD ***

PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:24 pm
by Guest
In 2010
64,500 w/ locality + Moving Bonus
BS Engineering
Air Force - NSPS pay system

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:19 pm
by Guest
Started Fall 2015

Pay: $60,400
Degree Level: BS
Branch: USMC
Facility: MARCORSYSCOM
Pay System / Level: NH-02/03 Ladder (should hit 03 in about two years)
Effects of Furloughs: None

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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 11:34 pm
by 2012_cohort
Pay: about $64,000
Degree Level: Ph.D., Physics
Branch: DoD
Facility: Probably overkill, but leaving this blank due to OPSEC.
Pay System / Level: GG11 step 3
Effects of Furloughs: None

I was hired as a GG11 step 1 in 2014, with the understanding that I was bring hired into a GG13 billet and would be noncompetitively promoted once per year based strictly on my performance. Unfortunately that same year, a major budget crunch hit. After that, "noncompetitive" got reinterpreted by a national-level leadership that watched the Hunger Games and thought it would make a great HR strategy. They instituted tiny promotion quotas and after almost three years I'm still a GG11.

On the other hand, my commitment has expired and frankly the defense contractor job market for STEM types with clearances is so good that essentially by accident I got an offer that doubled my salary. I will thus shortly be leaving government employment. Which I genuinely have mixed feelings about - my SF is an extremely interesting, enjoyable, and (by government standards) caring place to work. If pay had been even remotely competitive with the rest of the market, I'd have probably stayed several more years.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 9:32 am
by guestagain
Started Summer 2015

Pay: $74,000
Degree Level: PhD
Branch: Army
Facility: Leaving blank, following 2012_cohort's lead
Pay System / Level: GS 11 Step 6
Effects of Furloughs: None

At 1 year (so very shortly) I will get bumped to GS 12 Step 2.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:18 pm
by BIOEphd
guestagain - Did you start at GS 11 step 6? Or did you work your way up from GS 11 step 1? If you started there, how did you negotiate that?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:54 pm
by Guest1234
Started work at the beginning of FY 2017.

Pay: ~$77,000
Degree Level: Master's (completed)
Branch: Air Force
Facility: AFRL
Pay System / Level: DR-01
Effects of Furloughs: None

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:22 am
by Guestwhoitis
Guest1234 wrote:Started work at the beginning of FY 2017.

Pay: ~$77,000
Degree Level: Master's (completed)
Branch: Air Force
Facility: AFRL
Pay System / Level: DR-01
Effects of Furloughs: None



Did you negotiate your starting salary?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:45 am
by Guest1234
Guestwhoitis wrote:
Guest1234 wrote:Started work at the beginning of FY 2017.

Pay: ~$77,000
Degree Level: Master's (completed)
Branch: Air Force
Facility: AFRL
Pay System / Level: DR-01
Effects of Furloughs: None



Did you negotiate your starting salary?


I did not negotiate. This was the first/only offer I received and it is way better than what I would have gotten on the GS scale (~$49k). My supervisor told me the offer was representative of what he thought I was worth/ my market value based on my resumé. Though I have a feeling most MS grads hired into AFRL probably get the same starting pay as long as they are in a job using Lab Demo (the DR scale/bands). I have no idea though since I don't know anyone else hired in AFRL straight out of grad school. If I remember correctly, my pay is almost within the DR-02 band? Something like that.