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Dilemma - Need Advice

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Dilemma - Need Advice

Postby batman » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:57 pm

I haven’t been cleared for a SMART internship for the last 2 summers including the one that just ended (secret clearance). I am now in my last year and have an offer for a high paying job. Financially, it is worth it to take the offer even if I did have to pay everything back.

I feel that there is a chance SMART will not be able to clear me at all and I won’t be able to work at my facility.
While I know I will PROBABLY have to pay back everything in the event they can’t clear me, it is more likely I won’t have to or will have a reduced amount to pay if THEY cannot clear ME rather than ME leaving THEM.

To wait this out, I would only find out in March 2020. To accept the offer, I have to make a decision by late October 2019.
Can anyone shed some advice on this?
Side note, is there a chance that if I submit the paperwork to leave, they can say “no”?
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Re: Dilemma - Need Advice

Postby Sisyphus » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:04 pm

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Re: Dilemma - Need Advice

Postby boysenberry » Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:03 pm

Is there a reason you were not cleared for the summer?
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Re: Dilemma - Need Advice

Postby Xristos_317 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:42 pm

I had it from my facility and SMART that if my clearance were denied for something I was upfront and honest about, I would not have to repay anything. I was concerned from the beginning of gaining a Secret level clearance. The process for me took 18 months (August '17 - February '19), but I was approved in the end. I missed one summer internship, but was able to teach at my home university.

As stated above, you are free to leave at any time. This is the important distinction between being enlisted with the DoD and working as a civilian. You will owe money, but they can't throw you in jail.

At the end of the day, this is obviously a decision for you. I would consider how much money you would owe (tuition, fees, stipend, etc.) vs. your new salary. You should have received an expected salary range for starting at your SF. I know mine was significantly lower than my prior salary in industry, but the cost of living would also be much lower where I'd be stationed.

Good luck!
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Re: Dilemma - Need Advice

Postby asdf1234 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:30 am

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Re: Dilemma - Need Advice

Postby malarious » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:06 pm

You are not alone.

I have been told no on interim clearance the last two semesters. Now the first one I was in Japan, so I figured maybe that contributed, but took classes this last summer too.
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Re: Dilemma - Need Advice

Postby batman » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:16 pm

So I'm not 100% sure why I got denied because they wouldn't actually tell me.
I'm pretty sure it has to do with serving in a foreign military for a few years and living outside the country (during that time) for 4 years.

I met with an agent for an interview and they were asking me about trips on my passport that I couldn't remember taking so I doubt that helped.

I am a dual citizen of the country who's military I served in so that helps even less.
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Re: Dilemma - Need Advice

Postby Xristos_317 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:31 pm

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Re: Dilemma - Need Advice

Postby amtamasi » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:51 am

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Re: Dilemma - Need Advice

Postby Sisyphus » Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:25 pm

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Re: Dilemma - Need Advice

Postby amtamasi » Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:58 pm

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Re: Dilemma - Need Advice

Postby SMARTRegret » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:40 pm

Do they prorate what you owe based on time served?

I've been employed at my SF for half of my term and am considering quitting and paying back what I haven't worked off... I can't take working here much longer (It's like my degree doesn't even matter. My SF would rather hire contractors to do technical work and keep me on program management stuff -- it's not what I was told I'd be doing) and I can make 4x what I'm being paid now in industry.
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Re: Dilemma - Need Advice

Postby Sisyphus » Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:11 am

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