Switching SF

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Switching SF

Postby Guest5 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:30 pm

Hi everyone, has anyone successfully/tried to change SF? I want to change to a location closer to home and was wondering how I would go about doing that. Where would you start?
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Re: Switching SF

Postby Sisyphus » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:36 pm

If someone actually has a success story it would be interesting to see it but from all the participants I've talked to, many of whom left the program early rather than stay at dysfunctional facilities when they couldn't get a transfer, it's generally something that just doesn't happen.

SMART views you as their property and by extension the property of the sponsoring facility that sponsored/funded you for the SMART program.

IF your original SF decided that you just didn't fit/they didn't need your skills/etc. and offloaded you of their own volition then you'd be shopped around for other SFs and, if nobody bit, in theory you'd be free to leave.

They definitely won't be apt to let you switch just due to geographic preference.
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Re: Switching SF

Postby Guest1 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:57 pm

So if I were still in phase 0 and still haven't accepted the offer and my SF said they didn't want me, there's a possibility that I would get transfered to a new facility? Or would I just get dropped from the program altogether?
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Re: Switching SF

Postby Guest » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:08 pm

My sponsoring SF was a really poor fit for me, and I switched SFs to one that I very much enjoy working at.

When I was getting really frustrated with the initial SF, I reached out to an SES that was at one point the SMART Program Manager. He used to come on this discussion board. He basically stated that I wouldn't have a problem as long as I stayed in the DoD during the payback period. I passed my resume through a few people and a guy from my current SF called me up almost immediately. Over the phone and later on in person, we determined this new SF would be a good fit. The SF has direct hire authority, so I didn't have to compete for the position.

When things started getting more serious, I contacted my SMART liaison who said I would need buy-in from both SFs for the transfer. My previous SF didn't answer me when I asked for this buy-in to allow me to transfer gracefully, so I just left anyway. A few months in to the new job, it was time to submit my annual report and I told SMART at that point that I was working for a new SF. I didn't get any response, so a few months later I asked if they received that notification and they said I should have received a letter (I never did) which they then attached to the email. It was a "letter of reprimand" with some pretty harsh language, yet the take away for me was "you aren't allowed to do that ... please don't do it again".

Recently marked 3 years on the job at my new SF. Last year I completed Phase II of the SMART program. Aside from the nasty letter and many sleepless nights worrying about what would happen, nothing bad actually happened to me for switching SFs. I'm not sure if SMART has a policy or process for dealing with this type of transition or if they take it case by case, but for me it worked out. In my mind, the situation benefits the Government: I'm happy at my new SF and highly likely to stay here a lot longer
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Re: Switching SF

Postby Guest1 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:26 pm

Guest wrote:My sponsoring SF was a really poor fit for me, and I switched SFs to one that I very much enjoy working at.

When I was getting really frustrated with the initial SF, I reached out to an SES that was at one point the SMART Program Manager. He used to come on this discussion board. He basically stated that I wouldn't have a problem as long as I stayed in the DoD during the payback period. I passed my resume through a few people and a guy from my current SF called me up almost immediately. Over the phone and later on in person, we determined this new SF would be a good fit. The SF has direct hire authority, so I didn't have to compete for the position.

When things started getting more serious, I contacted my SMART liaison who said I would need buy-in from both SFs for the transfer. My previous SF didn't answer me when I asked for this buy-in to allow me to transfer gracefully, so I just left anyway. A few months in to the new job, it was time to submit my annual report and I told SMART at that point that I was working for a new SF. I didn't get any response, so a few months later I asked if they received that notification and they said I should have received a letter (I never did) which they then attached to the email. It was a "letter of reprimand" with some pretty harsh language, yet the take away for me was "you aren't allowed to do that ... please don't do it again".

Recently marked 3 years on the job at my new SF. Last year I completed Phase II of the SMART program. Aside from the nasty letter and many sleepless nights worrying about what would happen, nothing bad actually happened to me for switching SFs. I'm not sure if SMART has a policy or process for dealing with this type of transition or if they take it case by case, but for me it worked out. In my mind, the situation benefits the Government: I'm happy at my new SF and highly likely to stay here a lot longer

Who did you forward your resumes to?
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Re: Switching SF

Postby Guest » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:19 am

Directly to the labs that I was interested in working at.
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Re: Switching SF

Postby Gues2 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:03 pm

You reached out to them personally or through USAjobs?
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Re: Switching SF

Postby temptemptemp » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:10 pm

Anyone want to trade me SFs? lol!
Thanks for the info though
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Re: Switching SF

Postby guestsss » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:47 pm

Guest wrote:My sponsoring SF was a really poor fit for me, and I switched SFs to one that I very much enjoy working at.

When I was getting really frustrated with the initial SF, I reached out to an SES that was at one point the SMART Program Manager. He used to come on this discussion board. He basically stated that I wouldn't have a problem as long as I stayed in the DoD during the payback period. I passed my resume through a few people and a guy from my current SF called me up almost immediately. Over the phone and later on in person, we determined this new SF would be a good fit. The SF has direct hire authority, so I didn't have to compete for the position.

When things started getting more serious, I contacted my SMART liaison who said I would need buy-in from both SFs for the transfer. My previous SF didn't answer me when I asked for this buy-in to allow me to transfer gracefully, so I just left anyway. A few months in to the new job, it was time to submit my annual report and I told SMART at that point that I was working for a new SF. I didn't get any response, so a few months later I asked if they received that notification and they said I should have received a letter (I never did) which they then attached to the email. It was a "letter of reprimand" with some pretty harsh language, yet the take away for me was "you aren't allowed to do that ... please don't do it again".

Recently marked 3 years on the job at my new SF. Last year I completed Phase II of the SMART program. Aside from the nasty letter and many sleepless nights worrying about what would happen, nothing bad actually happened to me for switching SFs. I'm not sure if SMART has a policy or process for dealing with this type of transition or if they take it case by case, but for me it worked out. In my mind, the situation benefits the Government: I'm happy at my new SF and highly likely to stay here a lot longer


Do you have an account on here? I'd like to PM you
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Re: Switching SF

Postby qwerty » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:03 am

This is my account, feel free to PM me.
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