Paying Back

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Paying Back

Postby Guest56 » Fri May 26, 2017 3:39 am

If you break contract, do you have to pay back tuition or tuition + living stipend?
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Re: Paying Back

Postby Guest0101 » Fri May 26, 2017 8:29 am

All of it.
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Re: Paying Back

Postby Guest123 » Fri May 26, 2017 1:26 pm

Guest0101 wrote:All of it.


Yes, every last penny SMART lists they paid you, which to them includes the normal stipend, the ISP's if you received them, wire transfer fees (if they also didn't listen to you and do direct deposits), tuition, and the health insurance stipends (don't remember if there was a book one too). In the award portal, they list out everything they have paid out to you.
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Re: Paying Back

Postby Guest » Fri May 26, 2017 7:44 pm

I challenge you to find anyone who has ever had to pay back.
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Re: Paying Back

Postby Guest » Fri May 26, 2017 7:55 pm

Guest wrote:I challenge you to find anyone who has ever had to pay back.

Not the first time I've heard this but who would take the money and run?
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Re: Paying Back

Postby Geust » Sun May 28, 2017 2:17 am

Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:I challenge you to find anyone who has ever had to pay back.

Not the first time I've heard this but who would take the money and run?


Who wouldn't?
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Re: Paying Back

Postby Guest » Sun May 28, 2017 11:31 am

Geust wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:I challenge you to find anyone who has ever had to pay back.

Not the first time I've heard this but who would take the money and run?


Who wouldn't?

Somebody with morals?
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Re: Paying Back

Postby Guest111 » Mon May 29, 2017 6:44 pm

Guest wrote:I challenge you to find anyone who has ever had to pay back.


One of my friends got it and worked for the Air Force at the Pentagon and did 2 years there. He decided it was too slow for him and withdrew from the program.
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Re: Paying Back

Postby kbl2017 » Mon May 29, 2017 9:29 pm

Guest111 wrote:
Guest wrote:I challenge you to find anyone who has ever had to pay back.


One of my friends got it and worked for the Air Force at the Pentagon and did 2 years there. He decided it was too slow for him and withdrew from the program.


Two years into working??? How many years was he funded for school? I can totally see people deciding government work isn't for them after their 2-5 years of funding are paid back...I can't imagine dropping out partway in.
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Re: Paying Back

Postby guest314 » Tue May 30, 2017 9:09 am

Lack of work, depressing atmosphere is definitely enough to drive some people out. It's your future at stake! Reminds me of a phenomena in Japan:
A banishment room (also known as a chasing-out-room and a boredom room) is a modern employee exit management strategy whereby employees are transferred to another department where they are assigned meaningless work until they become disheartened enough to quit.
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Re: Paying Back

Postby LOL_DOD_QUIZZES » Tue May 30, 2017 10:12 am

If you drop out of the program, then the contract states you are liable for repayment of all funds.

I don't know how they pay current Phase I recipients, but when I was in Phase I I was paid as a contractor. I received a 1099 MISC and paid taxes on my stipend. So legally I was being paid to maintain my 3.0 GPA and finish my degree in a certain time period as per my contract. I did not pay taxes on any tuition as those were paid directly to the university.

So my personal crazy recipient theory (and use I've read the USC about SMART) is that because they paid us as contractors they can't really come after the stipend money regardless of what the contract says. They hired us to do a job and we completed it. Now anything we didn't pay taxes on such as tuition I think is probably fair game. However, everyone that completes Phase I and drops out during Phase II has their reimbursement amount reviewed by OSD. So if you say work 2 years our of 3 you should get some reduction based on years of service.

Long story short: SMART threatens you with everything which is probably valid if you never make it to Phase II (breach of contract for payments). I personally know several people who have left during Phase I and Phase II and they have not been placed into repayment.
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