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by **Guest** » Tue May 09, 2017 10:40 pm

Slim Chance wrote:I'm dumb. I didn't realize I was replying to someone's post from last year. Maybe all of the rejection awards were worded that way this year. Can anyone comment on what message they got this year? No wonder I didn't get the "SMART" award...

Your differences are exactly correct! I got the same message as you. So if these 2016 peeps got that and still were later awarded ours is worded in such a way that it seems like more would be awarded.

by **Slim Chance** » Tue May 09, 2017 10:27 pm

I'm dumb. I didn't realize I was replying to someone's post from last year. Maybe all of the rejection awards were worded that way this year. Can anyone comment on what message they got this year? No wonder I didn't get the "SMART" award...

by **Slim Chance** » Tue May 09, 2017 10:10 pm

Guest wrote:
guest wrote:Did any of your emails say you were waitlisted ? Is there a waiting list ?
No idea on the waiting list. My email did not specifically state that but it did say the following...

"Thank you for applying for the Science, Mathematics, And Research for Transformation (SMART) Defense Education Program. Unfortunately at this time the Department of Defense has not selected you for an award. Additional rounds of awards may be issued in the coming weeks. You may be reconsidered for an award at that time.

If the Department of Defense is interested in making an award to you at a later date we will notify you. Otherwise this will be your final notification regarding the 2016 application cycle. Please consider reapplying in the future if applicable to your academic situation. We appreciate your interest in the SMART Scholarship Program.

American Society for Engineering Education

1818 N St. NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20036
https://smart.asee.org
smart@asee.org"

I think there might be a wait list because I got the EXACT same email last year that you got and this year I got the same email but the underligned sentence was not present in my email this year. That is, this year I got:

Thank you for applying for the Science, Mathematics, And Research for Transformation (SMART) Defense Education Program. The Department of Defense will be continuing to make awards over the next few weeks. If the Department of Defense is interested in making an award to you at a later date you will be notified.

If you do not receive further correspondence, this will serve as your final notification regarding the 2017 application cycle. Please consider reapplying in the future if applicable to your academic situation. We appreciate your interest in the SMART Scholarship Program.

American Society for Engineering Education

1818 N St. NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20036
https://www.smartscholarship.org/
smart@asee.org

by **SMARTRejectee** » Tue May 09, 2017 8:27 pm

2016results wrote:
SMARTRejectee wrote:Here is my opinion. If you do not get recommended, you are removed from consider in evaluation stage 3. So the second round award is ONLY for those who are RECOMMENDED but did not receive the award due to budget but NOT for those who are not recommended by any SF. So I can safely say that I get rejected. Please correct me if I am wrong.
How do you know you didn't get recommended?

I also would assume recommendations are in an order. So I interviewed with the SMC. There were like 6 of us, he probably ordered us a top choice on. Which would mean I'd be in line for that spot if he got more funding even if I wasn't the top recommendation. Also some people don't do interviews.

I got an interview too. I actually called back to the interviewer. But the interviewer said he did not know the outcome. So I presume it is a polite way to say that he did not recommend me.

by **Guest** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:57 pm

Guest wrote:
AngryRejectee wrote:
Guest wrote:
Dude. Calm down. I get it they screwed up your chances but that doesn't just mean we should all give up.
I'm not trying to be "that guy" mate. Think about it, 999/1000 people offered the grant accept it. The odds of a STEM program getting more funding under TRUMP is litterally the same as getting strike by lightning, I.e. Only a few of you guys getting waitlisted right now will receive the award. Be realistic, I'm a scientist, one of the good ones. I only come to conclusions based on the availabile data that are presented to me.
Bro..... maybe they threw out your application due to spelling errors, if your post is anything to go by *shrug*

damn, maybe that's why I didn't get it. I can't spell to save my life and I didn't have my mom read it over

by **Guest** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:54 pm

AngryRejectee wrote:
Guest wrote:
AngryRejectee wrote:Stop on relying on SMART datas. The people working for smart are 1980s robots. That means the bad clumsy ones, just like C3PO.
Dude. Calm down. I get it they screwed up your chances but that doesn't just mean we should all give up.
I'm not trying to be "that guy" mate. Think about it, 999/1000 people offered the grant accept it. The odds of a STEM program getting more funding under TRUMP is litterally the same as getting strike by lightning, I.e. Only a few of you guys getting waitlisted right now will receive the award. Be realistic, I'm a scientist, one of the good ones. I only come to conclusions based on the availabile data that are presented to me.

Bro..... maybe they threw out your application due to spelling errors, if your post is anything to go by *shrug*

by **Guest** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:48 pm

AngryRejectee wrote:
Guest wrote:
AngryRejectee wrote:Stop on relying on SMART datas. The people working for smart are 1980s robots. That means the bad clumsy ones, just like C3PO.
Dude. Calm down. I get it they screwed up your chances but that doesn't just mean we should all give up.
I'm not trying to be "that guy" mate. Think about it, 999/1000 people offered the grant accept it. The odds of a STEM program getting more funding under TRUMP is litterally the same as getting strike by lightning, I.e. Only a few of you guys getting waitlisted right now will receive the award. Be realistic, I'm a scientist, one of the good ones. I only come to conclusions based on the availabile data that are presented to me.

He probably doesn't even know this program exists. He knows the big picture and is pretty clueless to everything else. So I'm really not convinced he had anything to do with DOD STEM funds. He made a big fuss about NASA education then did nothing.

by **AngryRejectee** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:45 pm

Guest wrote:
AngryRejectee wrote:Stop on relying on SMART datas. The people working for smart are 1980s robots. That means the bad clumsy ones, just like C3PO.
Dude. Calm down. I get it they screwed up your chances but that doesn't just mean we should all give up.

I'm not trying to be "that guy" mate. Think about it, 999/1000 people offered the grant accept it. The odds of a STEM program getting more funding under TRUMP is litterally the same as getting strike by lightning, I.e. Only a few of you guys getting waitlisted right now will receive the award. Be realistic, I'm a scientist, one of the good ones. I only come to conclusions based on the availabile data that are presented to me.

by **Guest** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:42 pm

guest_ne wrote:
Guest wrote: like i met far above the requirements
Test score/gpa requirements???

I honestly think that has little impact on your actual selection chances past the finalist selection.

i have a 3.8, but i have over 30 hours of volunteer work and engineering experience[/quote]

That's great and I mean this in a matter of fact way, not a you don't deserve it way, I can guarantee you 50%+ of these people have the qualifications in volunteer work/engineering experiences/research etc or they wouldn't have applied.

The DOD's needs vary greatly year to year. Maybe they just didn't hire your major, or they hired someone with a shorter outlook on when they'd actual start work or they were looking for someone with a 3 year scholarship before working full time etc etc etc.

Again I still think a decent number haven't been awarded.

by **guest_ne** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:35 pm

Guest wrote:
guest_ne wrote:
Guest wrote:\

Sorry I have no idea :/

What do you mean by top application?

10 million increase is a lot of possibe awards though
like i met far above the requirements
Test score/gpa requirements???

I honestly think that has little impact on your actual selection chances past the finalist selection.

i have a 3.8, but i have over 30 hours of volunteer work and engineering experience

by **Guest** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:35 pm

AngryRejectee wrote:Stop on relying on SMART datas. The people working for smart are 1980s robots. That means the bad clumsy ones, just like C3PO.

Dude. Calm down. I get it they screwed up your chances but that doesn't just mean we should all give up.

by **Guest** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:34 pm

guest_ne wrote:
Guest wrote:\

Sorry I have no idea :/

What do you mean by top application?

10 million increase is a lot of possibe awards though
like i met far above the requirements

Test score/gpa requirements???

I honestly think that has little impact on your actual selection chances past the finalist selection.

by **AngryRejectee** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:32 pm

Stop on relying on SMART datas. The people working for smart are 1980s robots. That means the bad clumsy ones, just like C3PO.

by **guest_ne** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:27 pm

Guest wrote:
guest_ne wrote:
2016results wrote: do you know which places don't interview? i never had an interview but i had temp closed, a top application, and my school said 1 award was given for 2017 for navy which is what i applied for...
Sorry I have no idea :/

What do you mean by top application?

10 million increase is a lot of possibe awards though

like i met far above the requirements

by **Guest** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:27 pm

guest_ne wrote:
2016results wrote: do you know which places don't interview? i never had an interview but i had temp closed, a top application, and my school said 1 award was given for 2017 for navy which is what i applied for...

Sorry I have no idea :/

What do you mean by top application?

10 million increase is a lot of possibe awards though

by **guest_ne** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:22 pm

2016results wrote:
SMARTRejectee wrote:Here is my opinion. If you do not get recommended, you are removed from consider in evaluation stage 3. So the second round award is ONLY for those who are RECOMMENDED but did not receive the award due to budget but NOT for those who are not recommended by any SF. So I can safely say that I get rejected. Please correct me if I am wrong.
How do you know you didn't get recommended?

I also would assume recommendations are in an order. So I interviewed with the SMC. There were like 6 of us, he probably ordered us a top choice on. Which would mean I'd be in line for that spot if he got more funding even if I wasn't the top recommendation. Also some people don't do interviews.

do you know which places don't interview? i never had an interview but i had temp closed, a top application, and my school said 1 award was given for 2017 for navy which is what i applied for...

by **Rocknerd** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:22 pm

Well so far the budget is showing a 10 million dollar increase in the budget for this department so that would definitely work in our favor.

by **2016results** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:20 pm

SMARTRejectee wrote:Here is my opinion. If you do not get recommended, you are removed from consider in evaluation stage 3. So the second round award is ONLY for those who are RECOMMENDED but did not receive the award due to budget but NOT for those who are not recommended by any SF. So I can safely say that I get rejected. Please correct me if I am wrong.

How do you know you didn't get recommended?

I also would assume recommendations are in an order. So I interviewed with the SMC. There were like 6 of us, he probably ordered us a top choice on. Which would mean I'd be in line for that spot if he got more funding even if I wasn't the top recommendation. Also some people don't do interviews.

by **SMARTRejectee** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:18 pm

Here is my opinion. If you do not get recommended, you are removed from consider in evaluation stage 3. So the second round award is ONLY for those who are RECOMMENDED but did not receive the award due to budget but NOT for those who are not recommended by any SF. So I can safely say that I get rejected. Please correct me if I am wrong.

by **2016results** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:17 pm

guest_ne wrote:the emails we got today were first rounds. i got rejected.

from the first round. So it sounds like there's still a second round. Unclear of the size of our second round with the weird budget stuff going on with the whole new president thing.

by **guest_ne** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:14 pm

the emails we got today were first rounds. i got rejected.

by **2016results** » Tue May 09, 2017 7:11 pm

This is 2016 data. But same email as what we all got.

by **Guest** » Tue May 03, 2016 9:26 pm

Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:It's past five now, so it'll be at the earliest tomorrow. I don't know how I'm gonna handle this waiting again haha.
Got an email from SMART today informing me that I had been selected for an award. Hopefully this means that anyone else who was contacted asking if they were still interested in the program is in the same boat.
Congrata, what is your degree? (BS, MS or PhD?)

BS. I'm an undergrad freshman right now. (I'll be a sophomore in the fall)

by **Guest** » Tue May 03, 2016 8:18 pm

Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:It's past five now, so it'll be at the earliest tomorrow. I don't know how I'm gonna handle this waiting again haha.
Got an email from SMART today informing me that I had been selected for an award. Hopefully this means that anyone else who was contacted asking if they were still interested in the program is in the same boat.

Congrata, what is your degree? (BS, MS or PhD?)

by **Guest** » Tue May 03, 2016 12:20 pm

Guest wrote:It's past five now, so it'll be at the earliest tomorrow. I don't know how I'm gonna handle this waiting again haha.

Got an email from SMART today informing me that I had been selected for an award. Hopefully this means that anyone else who was contacted asking if they were still interested in the program is in the same boat.

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